Intriguing

"Jcarr" (jcarr) 12/15/2016 at 10:44 • Filed to: Movielopnik

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vondon302 > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 11:00

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Hope they do it right. Shocked that many people don’t know this story.

Jcarr > vondon302 12/15/2016 at 11:01

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It is surprising that it’s nearly 20 years since the release of Saving Private Ryan and this story is just now getting a modern motion picture treatment.

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 11:11

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Eh. It’s a losing story from a war they won (and not just losing, getting the piss kicked out of them). It doesn’t fit the “heroic victory”, “heroic defeat”, or “this is why we lost” tropes that war movies tend to be about. Not really surprising. There aren’t many movies about Kasserine Pass either.

BorkBorkBjork > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 11:17

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There are a number of amazing stories from the Second World War that do not get mentioned, hopefully this movie will be successful and we can get stories like the Battle off Samar or the story of Old 666.

Jcarr > BorkBorkBjork 12/15/2016 at 11:27

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Yes, the battle off Samar is an incredible story. Have you read Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors ?

BorkBorkBjork > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 11:28

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It is on my list, is it good?

Jcarr > BorkBorkBjork 12/15/2016 at 11:33

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Yeah, highly recommend. Ship of Ghosts , also by James Hornfischer, is fantastic as well. That one is about the USS Houston.

AuthiCooper1300 > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 12:11

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_ships_of_Dunkirk

AuthiCooper1300 > Shane MacGowan's Teeth 12/15/2016 at 12:16

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I respectfully disagree.

I have only seen the trailer but I imagine the film focuses not so much on the “Disaster of Dunkirk” but on the evacuation effort, and the hundreds of small, non-military ships that helped.

Ever heard of the Dunkirk spirit?

Shane MacGowan's Teeth > AuthiCooper1300 12/15/2016 at 12:24

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I’m not saying that it’s a bad thing to make a movie about (in fact, I tend to prefer war movies about losing sides, and I’m cautiously optimistic about this). Just, not surprising that notoriously risk-averse moviemakers never greenlighted a film that doesn’t tick the “right” boxes for a war movie.

AuthiCooper1300 > Shane MacGowan's Teeth 12/15/2016 at 12:31

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I was more concerned with your seeing the plot as “a losing story from a war they won (and not just losing, getting the piss kicked out of them).”

Dunkirk was indeed a military disaster; but the evacuation effort could also be considered an immense civilian victory that greatly helped morale in the UK at the time.

I understand your point about pictures that do not exactly show a victorious engagement, and fully agree with it. “A Bridge Too Far” comes to mind.

BorkBorkBjork > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 12:31

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Excellent, thank you for the recommendation. I’ll get around to both as soon as I can!

My bird IS the word > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 12:42

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I’m waiting for stuff from the korean war. I realized the other day that nobody ever talks about it. It is like it never happened.

Jcarr > My bird IS the word 12/15/2016 at 12:44

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They could totally do a movie on Fox Company and the Chosin Reservoir.

My bird IS the word > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 13:00

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I was on a video and someone was talking about the north koreans lacking anti-tank weapons so they would literally swarm the shermans and they would have to hose each other down with machine guns. Then I realized I knew practically nothing about how that war was fought.

Jcarr > My bird IS the word 12/15/2016 at 13:02

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If you get a chance, read The Last Stand of Fox Company . It’s an excellent account of that particular battle and really gives you an appreciation for how brutal it was.

My bird IS the word > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 13:09

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They have it at my library, I will take a look. thanks!

bubblestheturtle > Jcarr 12/15/2016 at 21:09

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I just hope it is historically accurate. Should be an incredible story.